MSA and Reece Anderson

Mike Cass · Post by **Mike Cass** » 4 Apr 2002 12:19 pm

it sounds like everyone needs a little "corner time"

guys, if we keep wasting space here arguing, then many other important issues will fall by the wayside. As i see it, whatever happened in the past is between those participants, whomever they may be.If you have no stake in the proceedings, this may be a good time to drop the mouse & pick up yer bar

This kind of thing is one of the reasons our instrument is in a slump, no matter what any Nashville "experts" would like to believe.
If we dont take the Steel Guitar seriously & stop all the Bull#*@$, how can we expect anyone else to?
Now ive gone & done it....

probably be a new thread about that!!!!
I apologize in advance if my post hurts anyones feelings

P Gleespen · Post by **P Gleespen** » 4 Apr 2002 12:26 pm

I just can't quite figure out why Johnny felt that there were better ways to use his time when he left the forum last time.

bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 4 Apr 2002 12:31 pm

Mike, Good to see you back, and I couldn't agree with you more.

Frank, It's easier to defind the Bible than it is to practice it. HMMM

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 4 Apr 2002 12:35 pm

I like your guitar analogy, except that a Fender Tele can be used to create some wonderful jazz music when using the neck pickup. I realize you did not say it couldn't, you just did not mention how versatile the Tele is.

Actually, my Tele has a humbucker in the neck position and produces a very mellow tone quite acceptable for jazz. But that's beside the point of my post.

As far as the controversy is concerned, there is an effort underway to resolve it in such a way as to satisfy all concerned. I suggest that those of us who were not involved AND DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS (And I include myself in that catagory) not comment on it and leave it to who were involved to work things out.

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 4 Apr 2002 12:37 pm

If you have no stake in the proceedings, this may be a good time to drop the mouse & pick up yer bar

AMEN!!!!

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 12:40 pm

Bob, I usually de-find my Bible beside my bed, but it does no good to just leave it there.

Bob, before you try to use Bible to take cheap shots in attempt to win an argument as many skeptics do, you had better be well read...

Assuming you have a Bible, read John 2:14-16 to get a fuller picture of Christ. He was not just about "sloppy agape."

Forgive me, folks, sometimes you have to just roll up the paper and give a whack to stop the yappin!

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 1:01 pm

Interesting post, Mike Cass. I do not see how it could hurt any feelings. The main problem is how it is absent of logic. I shall explain:

it sounds like everyone needs a little "corner time"

I think that is for each individual to decide. Most of the posts have been good natured ribbing.

guys, if we keep wasting space here arguing, then many other important issues will fall by the wayside. As i see it, whatever happened in the past is between those participants, whomever they may be.

Relax, it is b0b's space we are wasting and if we all buy Forum products and/or send money then we are helping to pay for it and then it really becomes OUR Forum after all.

What is a more important issue than keeping the consumer informed? Sorry, but one's track record must be considered and trust has to be earned. That is why that it can take a lifetime to build a reputation and only a few moments to wreck it all.

Also, a lot of the info is already out there, so it is too late to put the proverbial genie back into the bottle. Much of it is public knowledge and will have to be dealt with accordingly.

If you have no stake in the proceedings, this may be a good time to drop the mouse & pick up yer bar

I have tried that, but my bar cannot control the mouse pointer on the screen and there is no way to click a button.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>This kind of thing is one of the reasons our instrument is in a slump, no matter what any Nashville "experts" would like to believe.
If we dont take the Steel Guitar seriously & stop all the Bull#*@$, how can we expect anyone else to? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm assuming those two sentences above were intended to go together as one thought. So, you are telling us that road acts, theatres in Pigeon Forge, etc. are not using steel because we cut up on this Forum???

Is the so-called steel guitar slump because some people want to see the right thing done in regards to their fellow pickers???

It simply does not follow.

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 4 Apr 2002 1:07 pm

I should mention that the heated arguments Reece and I got into (and probably will again) were about politics, and not about steel guitars. Without getting specific, we have diametrically opposing views, which we are both passionate about. However, we have never disagreed about MSA or steel guitars in general.

Even though we disagree on politics, I still consider Reece an honorable man and a good friend.

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 1:11 pm

Mike, I cannot imagine anyone disagreeing with you about politics!

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 1:31 pm

Sorry, Mr. Cole, you will have start another thread because you are off-topic for this thread even though you are more on topic for this Pedal Steel board.

Bill Moore · Post by **Bill Moore** » 4 Apr 2002 1:58 pm

Frank, how about this: I like Teles' too.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 4 Apr 2002 2:04 pm

No I'm not!

Rick Garrett · Post by **Rick Garrett** » 4 Apr 2002 2:17 pm

Well I've only known Reece for about 4 months and only met him a couple weeks ago at the Dallas show. We had talked a couple times via phone and email. I've been in business for myself for nearly 25 years and have sold hundreds of jobs to various sorts of people. Said that to say this, you get to where you can judge a persons character very fast after having dealt with so many. My Dad loved and respected Reece Anderson very much and he had much more experience with him than I have BUT after having met Reece at the Dallas show my mind was made up. He is a wonderful caring person and within 5 minutes made me feel as comfortable as I would be had I known him all my life. Feelings like that cant be faked folks. He hugged my neck and I was instantly at ease with him. I look forward to the lessons he's going to be giving me and when I get ready for a new Pedal Steel his will be the one I buy. Further when Im ready I will have no reservation whatsoever about sending not only a deposit but payment in full. Guaranteed I wont lose a minutes sleep worrying about it. I've worked my tail off for alot of years to make sure that every customer I was blessed with got their monies worth but no matter how hard we all try sometimes you will stump your toe and fall down. I think true character shows the most clearly NOT in the trouble we get into but how we handle the situation to make it right. Recent postings say that Reece is doing just that. Trying to make it right. After all how many of you hard cases have never made an honest mistake that you flat couldnt do anything to prevent? I would say all of us. The guy who never messes things up aint doing a whole lot and thats a fact. Reece is my friend and I would trust him completely with anything I have. If you ever get a chance to meet him do it by all means. if you ever get a chance to hear him play drop whatever keeps you busy and go listen. WONDERFUL!!! God Bless Reece and keep that chin up high!

Rick Garrett

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 4 Apr 2002 2:54 pm

Let him without sin cast the first stone!

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bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 4 Apr 2002 3:03 pm

Frank, my point was you need to practice what you preach. So what if you are well read in the Bible, what good is it if you can't practice it. I see no point in any thing you have said. The only point I can see is you want to slander the name of a fellow believer, and for what. Were you wronged by Him in some way? Have you had any dealings with Reece? Well, I have. I have owned my MSA for over 20 years trouble free and have never been treated better by Reece or my guitar. [This message was edited by bob drawbaugh on 04 April 2002 at 03:17 PM.][This message was edited by bob drawbaugh on 04 April 2002 at 03:19 PM.]

bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 4 Apr 2002 3:07 pm

Johnny, you are right on with your post. [This message was edited by bob drawbaugh on 04 April 2002 at 03:09 PM.]

Bob Carlson · Post by **Bob Carlson** » 4 Apr 2002 3:32 pm

Vell dis Norwegian can't help but wonder why nobody just had to know.....besides Billy.....who got stuck with money they had put down on an Emmons when Junior had to take over the Company?.

Why Reece after all these years???. I missed the start of this. Who was it that felt they needed to save the world and started this crusade?.

Bob.

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 3:34 pm

Bob, Bob, Bob,...as I once again roll up the newspaper

First, go get a dictionary and look up the word slander. The first part of the definition is "a false report." Just find the false report part of my post.

Next, it is not my job to grant forgiveness on behalf of those who may have been wronged. Just like it is not the job of others to cover up reality. It is my job to forgive those who have wronged me and we should care enough about our fellow man to help them make informed decisions so that they will not get burned. I know I certainly appreciate it, when I am helped by the experience and lessons others have learned.

I sincerely hope the right thing will be done. Frankly, I am hopeful, but others are not so sure.

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 4 Apr 2002 3:36 pm

I'm sticking to my guns. My post is just what it is: nothing more or less.

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Zumsteel Tripleneck
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Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 3:48 pm

Let him without sin cast the first stone!

Now for the rest of it so conveniently left out: ...neither do I (Jesus) condemn thee, go and sin no more.

When a short tax collector got saved:

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Luke 19:8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore [him] fourfold.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BTW, I do not think it expected that one restore fourfold to be right...

Frank Estes · Post by **Frank Estes** » 4 Apr 2002 3:51 pm

I'm sticking to my guns.

Yeah, but your bullet is in your pocket!

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 4 Apr 2002 4:05 pm

And it shall stay there until I CHOOSE TO TAKE IT OUT.

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Johnny Cox
Zumsteel Tripleneck
E9th/E13th/C6th
(this week)

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