PF#4 to the left.

John Sluszny · Post by **John Sluszny** » 11 Apr 2002 6:57 am

How about placing Paul Franklin's pedal # 4 to the left side of pedal #1 (or pedal A).
I would call it "pedal 0"(zero).Wouldn't it be easier to release A &B pedals then push pedal 0 instead of jumping over pedal C to push pedal 4.
Also all floor pedals would remain at the same place.
Thanks for your opinions.
JS

Don Walters · Post by **Don Walters** » 11 Apr 2002 7:01 am

Al Brisco does that as you can see here

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 11 Apr 2002 7:02 am

That's not too unusual, John.

What's unusual is me having that change on the Vertical Lever. I know of noone else doing that.

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C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 11 Apr 2002 7:51 am

John,

A number of players do this. I think though, most do it on Pedal 4 as PF does. There are advantages either way.

Some players are finding combination changes with other knee levers used with this change.

carl

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 11 Apr 2002 7:59 am

Do people use it in combination with pedal 3 much? If so, what happens on the 5th string?

I've always assumed that it was used by itself or with knee levers. If that's the case, it wouldn't make any difference where you put it.

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C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 11 Apr 2002 8:53 am

b0b,

I know of no combinations with other pedals. I should have said with knee levers. Thanks for catching that.

God bless,

carl[This message was edited by C Dixon on 11 April 2002 at 10:18 AM.]

KENNY KRUPNICK · Post by **KENNY KRUPNICK** » 11 Apr 2002 11:27 am

I would think you could put the "PF" change on a 2nd LKL.

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 11 Apr 2002 11:52 am

That's exactly where I've got it now, Kenny, and I'm seriously thinking about putting it on my first floor pedal, moving G# to G back to a lever. I tend to use the Franklin change more rapid-fire than I can pull off with a lever.

Just my personal preference.

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Jeff Evans · Post by **Jeff Evans** » 12 Apr 2002 4:53 pm

Larry:

Do you have those changes on your push-pull? Besides Jerry Roller, who else does?

JB Arnold · Post by **JB Arnold** » 12 Apr 2002 6:27 pm

My Fulawka has it on pedal #1, and I use it on a walk up in conjunction with the A&B pedals.

John

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bob grossman · Post by **bob grossman** » 13 Apr 2002 7:02 am

Someone awhile back mentioned using it with the E-F change. Pretty wild. Instead of a diminished every 3 frets?

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 13 Apr 2002 11:32 am

Jeff,
I don't have it on the push-pull -- only on the Fessenden. Actually on the Fessy I have the top octave (5 and 6) on one lever and the lower octave (9 and 10 on the universal) on another. I believe Joe Wright has all four pulls on one lever on his Sierra.

It's one of the first changes that would go if I had to eliminate one. It makes tuning the split on the 5th string more difficult since B to A becomes the maximum lower. I lower G# to F# on the Beast, but don't lower B to A. I like to keep it at 6 and 6 so I have to compromise a bit.

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